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The One Inside: An Internal Family Systems (IFS) podcast

May 7, 2024

On today's episode I chat with David Eckel, an accredited mental health social worker and IFS Level 2 therapist in Australia. He is currently completing his Ph.D. focused on Internal Family Systems Therapy and Adult Attachment. As part of his Ph.D. thesis, he conducted qualitative research asking the question: “How might Internal Family Systems Therapy conceptualise and treat adults with attachment avoidance and attachment anxiety?” He shares some of his findings and insights. 

In this episode we discuss:

  • The significance of attachment patterns and how they can change across relationships and contexts
  • Attachment defintion and history of the theory
  • Understanding attachment patterns in repairing ruptures (repair is key)
  • Intersections between attachment theory and IFS 
  • Can we call IFS an attachment-based therapy?
  • "The Controversy" around internal vs. external attachment
  • His research process
  • Can parts have different attachment styles?
  • The role of Self in healing attachment wounds
  • Ruptures and negotiating separation and togetherness are normal and can be modeled in therapy
  • Anxious attachment may involve reactivity, helplessness, and pulling others in
  • Avoidant attachment may involve deactivation, caretaking, and self reliance
  • How attachment relates to parts


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Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is currently enrolled in an IFS Level 1 training. 


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Tammy is grateful for Jack Reardon who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program. You can follow Jack at bonzemusic on Instagram